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	<title>Comments on: Turkey Cracks Down On An Anti-Muslim &#8216;Plot&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Helena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how the &quot;plotters&quot; - in reality secularists, who are trying to uphold the separation of church and state stipulated in Turkey&#039;s constitution (which is responsible for Turkey&#039;s modernization and openness, in comparison with the rest of the muslim world) are characterized as &quot;ultranationalist&quot; by the author of this article: undoubtedly a pro-islamic govt. Turk who works for the AP. Does the PM&#039;s wife still wear a burka?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how the &#8220;plotters&#8221; &#8211; in reality secularists, who are trying to uphold the separation of church and state stipulated in Turkey&#8217;s constitution (which is responsible for Turkey&#8217;s modernization and openness, in comparison with the rest of the muslim world) are characterized as &#8220;ultranationalist&#8221; by the author of this article: undoubtedly a pro-islamic govt. Turk who works for the AP. Does the PM&#8217;s wife still wear a burka?</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
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		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t buy the religious motive as the whole answer behind the Islamic madness either.  Even though it is an extremely nutty religion, it&#039;s hard to imagine that hundreds of thousands or millions of Muslims wake up every day thirsting for jihad.

Religion, I think, is the lighter fluid, but somewhere, there has to be an arsonist.

I also think that religion is not the underlying motivation it&#039;s given credit for.  Envy is the real emotion that stirs the people up....just like envy is the tool used in the U.S. by socialists/aristocrats to sieze control of this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t buy the religious motive as the whole answer behind the Islamic madness either.  Even though it is an extremely nutty religion, it&#8217;s hard to imagine that hundreds of thousands or millions of Muslims wake up every day thirsting for jihad.</p>
<p>Religion, I think, is the lighter fluid, but somewhere, there has to be an arsonist.</p>
<p>I also think that religion is not the underlying motivation it&#8217;s given credit for.  Envy is the real emotion that stirs the people up&#8230;.just like envy is the tool used in the U.S. by socialists/aristocrats to sieze control of this country.</p>
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		<title>By: GetBackJack</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/turkey-cracks-down-on-secular-plot#comment-129183</link>
		<dc:creator>GetBackJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never been able to swallow the notion that Islamic jihadists have been able to wreak so much havoc. They surely are cut outs and proxies for a larger war. And I don&#039;t mean just Iran, or the Saudis. This article reinforces my opinion. This year in Turkey when the annual celebration of Sufi saint Qualandar came round, it was attended by 300,000 people. Contrast this to 200 people attending a Taliban beheading in the same region. 200 v 300,000. 

I&#039;m not saying it isn&#039;t possible for 200 people to overthrow the will of 300,000 (see Lenin, et al) but for the disparity that these numbers represent has to indicate that far more powerful forces are at work. 

I&#039;m reminded of Longshanks offering Scottish &#039;lords&#039; lands and titles if they would throw the war for independence, meaning the real problem is never the 200 but who among the 300,000 can be bought off. Just as I&#039;m reminded of Huey Long&#039;s famous gauntlet - them what comes in with me now, get a big piece of pie. Them what throws in with me later get pie. Them what don&#039;t throw in with me will get good government. Meaning, it&#039;s better to be Red than dead. 

So, let&#039;s say 200 of Sweetness and Light readers get together and decide to overthrow the government. How far do you think we&#039;d get? 

Right.

So how is it that such small numbers of knuckle-draggers pose such a threat? 

There can&#039;t be any answer other than they serve larger interests at work behind the scenes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been able to swallow the notion that Islamic jihadists have been able to wreak so much havoc. They surely are cut outs and proxies for a larger war. And I don&#8217;t mean just Iran, or the Saudis. This article reinforces my opinion. This year in Turkey when the annual celebration of Sufi saint Qualandar came round, it was attended by 300,000 people. Contrast this to 200 people attending a Taliban beheading in the same region. 200 v 300,000. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it isn&#8217;t possible for 200 people to overthrow the will of 300,000 (see Lenin, et al) but for the disparity that these numbers represent has to indicate that far more powerful forces are at work. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded of Longshanks offering Scottish &#8216;lords&#8217; lands and titles if they would throw the war for independence, meaning the real problem is never the 200 but who among the 300,000 can be bought off. Just as I&#8217;m reminded of Huey Long&#8217;s famous gauntlet &#8211; them what comes in with me now, get a big piece of pie. Them what throws in with me later get pie. Them what don&#8217;t throw in with me will get good government. Meaning, it&#8217;s better to be Red than dead. </p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s say 200 of Sweetness and Light readers get together and decide to overthrow the government. How far do you think we&#8217;d get? </p>
<p>Right.</p>
<p>So how is it that such small numbers of knuckle-draggers pose such a threat? </p>
<p>There can&#8217;t be any answer other than they serve larger interests at work behind the scenes.</p>
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