« | »

US Burned Bibles In Afghanistan – In 2009

First, as we noted back in May 2009, Al Jazeera kicked off a propaganda jihad with some year old footage showing Bibles in Afghanistan:

Probe call in Afghan ‘convert’ row

Monday, May 04, 2009
15:37 Mecca time

A former Afghan prime minister has called for an inquiry after Al Jazeera broadcast footage showing Christian US soldiers appearing to be preparing to try and convert Muslims in Afghanistan.

Ahmed Shah Ahmedzai said there must be a "serious investigation" after military chaplains stationed in the US air base at Bagram were filmed discussing how to distribute copies of the Bible printed in the country’s main Pashto and Dari languages…

Ahmed Shah Ahmedzai told Al Jazeera from Kabul on Monday: "This is a complete deviation from what they [the US military] are supposed to be doing.

"I don’t think even the US constitution would allow what they are doing … it is completely against all regulations.

"This is very damaging for diplomatic relations between the two counties … everyone knows people are very conservative here, very faithful to Islam. They will never accept any other religion.

"Someone who leaves Islam is sentenced very severely – the death penalty [is imposed].

"There must be a serious investigation now that it has come out into the public and [into the] press," he said.

Sayed Aalam Uddin Asser, of the Islamic Front for Peace and Understanding in Kabul, told Al Jazeera: "It’s a national security issue … our constitution says nothing can take place in Afghanistan against Islam.

"If people come and propaganda other religions which have no followers in Afghanistan [then] it creates problems for the people, for peace, for stability.

The footage, shot about a year ago by Brian Hughes, a documentary maker and former member of the US military who spent several days in Bagram near Kabul, was obtained by Al Jazeera’s James Bays, who has covered Afghanistan extensively

It is not clear that the Bibles were distributed to Afghans, but Hughes said that none of the people he recorded in a series of sermons and Bible study classes appeared to able to speak Pashto or Dari.

Hughes said: "The only reason they would have these documents there was to distribute them to the Afghan people and I knew it was wrong, and I knew that filming it … documenting it would be important."

Questioned about the footage, US colonel Greg Julian told Al Jazeera: "Most of this is taken out of context … this is irresponsible and inappropriate journalism.

"This footage was taken a year ago … the bibles were taken into custody and not distributed

Again, as we noted at the time, the US Department of Defense naturally responded to these charges by destroying the Bibles in question.

From Reuters:

U.S. military says Afghan bibles have been destroyed

Tue May 5, 2009

KABUL (Reuters) – Bibles in Afghan languages sent to a U.S. soldier at a base in Afghanistan were confiscated and destroyed to ensure that troops did not breach regulations which forbid proselytizing, a military spokeswoman said.

The U.S. military has denied its soldiers tried to convert Afghans to Christianity, after Qatar-based Al Jazeera television showed soldiers at a bible class on a base with a stack of bibles translated into the local Pashto and Dari languages.

U.S. Central Command’s General Order Number 1 forbids troops on active duty — including all those based in Iraq and Afghanistan — from trying to convert people to another religion.

"I can now confirm that the Bibles shown on Al Jazeera’s clip were, in fact, collected by the chaplains and later destroyed. They were never distributed," spokeswoman Major Jennifer Willis said at Bagram air base, north of Kabul

Compare and contrast.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Wednesday, September 8th, 2010. Comments are currently closed.

19 Responses to “US Burned Bibles In Afghanistan – In 2009”

  1. Coco Q. Rico

    I am glad you brought this up, Steve. I have been trying to avoid getting too caught up in the Koran-burning controversy because I think its such a crude distraction from the economic policies that are destroying our country. But I remembered the issue of burning Bibles (I’m military) and I was wondering when someone was going to point this out. Thanks.

  2. Rusty Shackleford

    “Someone who leaves Islam is sentenced very severely – the death penalty [is imposed]. “

    See? Right there.

  3. oldpuppydixie

    SHHHH! You’re not supposed to bring up such divisive issues.

  4. BannedbytheTaliban

    Good call SG. I had completely forgotten about that incident, mainly because things like that don’t offend me, actually I don’t think I have ever been offended. What other people do or say about my religion or religious materials has absolutely no affect on me what-so-ever. Those kinds of actions only offend people who lack conviction, i.e. liberals (the perpetually offended) and muslims (fanatical followers of a pedophile). The Bible, Torah, and Koran are all just wood pulp, glue, and ink. The words themselves are not holy; it is faith in them that makes them so.

  5. tranquil.night

    Zoinks! Steve strikes again! Wowee, doesn’t that put this into perspective!

  6. NoNeoCommies

    There is a training technique called desensitization, where you remove a negative response to stimuli by repeating the stimulus until the response decreases to an acceptable level.
    I would think that burning a Koran every time we see a US flag burned by Muslims is a fair response and it will eventually cause much less of a reaction even amongst the most sensitive of them.

    • Mithrandir

      Exactly. We need only redirect the frenzied media to Islamic practices as also acceptable to everyone else.

      Burn a Koran, when the media starts complaining, redirect them to the flag burning as Muslims know this is very offensive to us, but they continue to do it anyway.

      Every question from the media should be a talking-point answer:
      Q: Why are you burning a Koran?
      A: Good question, I have seen Muslims burning the American flag for decades now and it is wrong!

      Q: Ok, but you are creating more terrorists by doing this.
      A: Yes, Islam is full of terrorists, and standing up to them is the right thing to do.

      Q: You are putting our soldiers at risk.
      A: It is true that Islam is intolerant to non-Muslims everywhere in the world, we are all at risk for even breathing.

      Q: You are crushing their freedom for them to worship in America.
      A: Yes, our freedom to exercise our rights and our Christian faith is being crushed by Muslims, and our own government.

  7. jobeth

    Back in the early 90s, before I knew much about muslims, I was seriously considering working in Saudi. I sent for the information and noted many things that seemed unfair…toward women…but still had interest. Then deep in the agreement forms was the mention that under no circumstances would I be able to take a Bible or wear a cross of any kind at any time.

    That did it for me! I dismissed the whole idea. If I can’t worship on my own time in my own way…forget it.

    This double standard is what gets me. They DEMAND that we allow them to not only worship their way…but now demand we allow sharia law and allow them to play “smash face” with their terroristic mosques in sacred (to us) areas where they feel they won a conquest. And yet…we just go along to get along….Disgusting.

    The fact that the military can bring in personal Bibles etc is “new”.

    Having said that…This nut who burns the Koran is a fool. It makes as much sense as the 9/11 mosque. Neither are being “peaceful”.
    Both are trying to “smash face” the other.

    Just because BOTH have the law on their side doesn’t mean that either has a lick of sense or sensitivity. Respect is all it takes.

    However…a Koran for a flag sounds good to me! I’m so sick of them doing this stuff and we never make the pay. We MUST stop being fixated with always “taking the high road”. War is hell….so are consequences. Right now there are no consequences for them.

    • Mithrandir

      BURNING THE KORAN is the same issue as the VICTORY MOSQUE.

      Both are legal, but offensive and unethical.

      This is the easiest way for Republicans to win the NY mosque argument: “There are 1000s of things that are LEGAL in this country, but we refrain from it because it is personally immoral, offensive, divisive. Move the mosque and demonstrate sensitivity to those who do not agree with its position to the 911 site. As Muslims demand sensitivity, they also need to show sensitivity, as it is a 2-way street.”

  8. AcornsRNutz

    “the Islamic Front for Peace and Understanding”

    Is that front in the old sense, or front in the ebonics “you be frontin’” sense?

    Edit: Rush is hitting this article right now. Good job S&L!

  9. wardmama4

    -’“the Islamic Front for Peace and Understanding”’- is it just me or are the radicals who happen to be islamic (I omitted terrorist in this case as I have no proof that these people are anything more than intolerant muslims) sound a lot like liberals or is it liberals sound a lot like radicals who happen to be islamic? Whatever – they all sound like intolerant, extremists hiding behind names that have nothing to do with reality. For example – how can you say you are for peace and understanding when you say Bibles are not allowed in your country (why, it is just a book – what do you fear?!? The truth maybe) and that leaving islam requires a death sentence. Neither one sounds like they have anything at all to do with peace and/or understanding.

    God Help America
    A Proud American Infidel

  10. wardmama4

    This is a tad off topic – but not really. I am going through my family possessions (think generational family not immediate) as I’ve come into boxes from my Mom’s home after she passed away in January. My Dad was in WWII – Navy Doc – so I now have his things too. He had a New Testament with a note by (none other than) FDR in the front. And he has a Prayer Book with a note by the unit Chaplain. I have their gas ration cards, the stamps (3 cents – Win the War w/ Miss Liberty on it) and all the stuff that the liberals and spineless GOP would never ever think of doing (to really, truly Support The Troops) these days. And the telegram from Admiral Halsey after the War ended – Well let’s just say No one in power today would ever say those words in this pc (in)tolerant world. And it is going to be the destruction of the US because everyone is too ashamed and cowardly to stand up to today’s evil – the radical terrorists who happen to be islamic.

    God Help America
    A Proud American Infidel

    • AcornsRNutz

      Take heart, wm, the Gideons gave me a bible when I shipped to PISC in 2003. Small things, but what matters here is that the people haven’t changed as much as we are led to believe. Just the clowns we let pretend to run things for a while.

    • jobeth

      Ward mama…Nice post…I have those kind of memories too. And I am old enough to remember the 3cent stamps. But there is only one thing I take an exception to in your post…YOU are not the infidel. THEY are.

      I refuse to allow myself to be called an infidel. I love my God who said HE was the one true God. So IMHO…it it THEM who are the infidels. ;-D

    • proreason

      “God Help America”

      It took 62 years of dedicated subversion to overthrow a culture. 1946 to 2008.

      It’s going to take at least 10 to 20 years to rebuild it.

      But our task isn’t 1/1000th as hard as what the heroes of WWII accomplished.

      Only 1/2 of us are even proud of them, so we have to be 4 times as proud to make it happen. We owe it to them.

    • Rusty Shackleford

      “It’s going to take at least 10 to 20 years to rebuild it.”

      It will never be rebuilt for with great freedom comes the very mechanism for its undoing. You, yourself have acknowledged that our problem lies within our very tolerance of allowing those who would desire absolute power over them their own voice.

      Or, perhaps you may mean that it’ll take at least that long to get the foundations of freedom and our Bill Of Rights and Constitution back in use again and the people made aware of what they are and what the United States stands for.

      I personally fear that the freedom I love so much will be lost due to those who will exploit that same freedom to build a machine that undoes it. Yeah, like they’re doing right now.

  11. hushpuppy

    “I can now confirm that the Bibles shown on Al Jazeera’s clip were, in fact, collected by the chaplains and later destroyed. They were never distributed,” spokeswoman Major Jennifer Willis said at Bagram air base, north of Kabul…

    Okay. Lemme see if I have this straight:

    A chaplin (supposed to be some form of ‘christian’)…

    gathered God’s inspired word:
    (2 Tim. 3:16 which states:) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

    For the purpose of destruction:
    (Luke 9:26)For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and [in his] Father's, and of the holy angels. and
    (Mark 8:38)Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels

    Is more interested in not ‘offending’ a satanic, homicidal religion; but it doesn’t bother their consciences that they’re offending God.
    Exodus 20:3, You shall have no other Gods before Me.

    So do I have this right? And I’m not hallucinating after all?

  12. Muslims don’t burn any Holy books (at this time) but they do burn humans:

    Seems that the Islamic community is hypocritical to say the least and here is why:

    http://www.asianews.it/news-en.....17975.html

    • Gil

      Christian Holy book burning was ok in the past to Islamic extremists:

      Christians in Gaza Fear for Their Lives as Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses
      Published June 18, 2007

      Muslim extremists are focusing their attacks on Christians in Gaza City. Christians in Gaza City have issued an appeal to the international community and a plea for protection against the increased attacks by Muslim extremists.

      Father Manuel Musallem, head of Gaza’s Latin church, told the AP that Muslims have ransacked, burned and looted a school and convent.. he additionally told The Jerusalem Post that the Muslim gunmen used rocket-propeled grenades (RPGs) to blow through the doors of the church and school, before burning Bibles and destroying every cross they could get their hands on.

      http://www.associatedcontent.c.....html?cat=9




« Front Page | To Top
« | »