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US Divided Over Ryan/Obama Deficit Plans

From Gallup:

Americans Divided Over Ryan vs. Obama Deficit Plans

Favor congressional Republicans over Democrats on federal budget, generally

by Lydia Saad
April 27, 2011

PRINCETON, NJ — U.S. adults are evenly split in their reactions to the major deficit-reduction plans being debated in Washington. Forty-four percent prefer the Democratic plan proposed by President Barack Obama, while 43% say Republican Rep. Paul Ryan’s plan is better.

Which is pretty amazing, given that Mr. Obama and the Democrats really have not proposed a plan. At least nothing beyond the most contradictory generalities.

Ryan’s plan includes a complete restructuring of Medicare for people younger than 55. Pluralities of middle-aged Americans as well as those 65 and older prefer Ryan’s plan to Obama’s, while adults 18 to 29 show more support for Obama’s, 53% to 30%.

Notice that Gallup does not even try to describe Mr. Obama’s plan. Which is probably a good thing, since it does not actually exist.

Indeed, while speaking at his Facebook town hall meeting last Wednesday Mr. Obama sometimes talked about his plan saving $4 trillion dollars. At other times he said it would save $2 trillion dollars. And he sometimes referred to it as a 10 year plan, and sometimes as a 12 year plan. He doesn’t seem to know for sure, himself.

These findings are in line with approval of Obama by age, more generally.

In other words, people just say they favor Obama’s ‘plan’ because they approve of Obama. They really have no idea what his intentions are towards Medicare. (And, to be fair, neither does he.)

Democrats’ and Republicans’ reactions to the competing budget plans are generally symmetrical; slightly more than 80% each of Republicans and Democrats favor their own party’s plan and few favor the opposing party’s plan. Independents are evenly divided

The simple truth is most American have no idea what either plan entails. Mr. Ryan’s plan is quite complicated. And Mr. Obama’s does not exist. So this poll just turns on party loyalty.

Sadly, unless and until these budget plans appear on ‘American Idol’ or ‘Dancing With The Stars,’ most people won’t have any idea what they are about. Or really care.

But that won’t stop purported news outlets like MSNBC from running headlines like: ‘Voter outrage over House GOP budget plan.’

This article was posted by Steve on Wednesday, April 27th, 2011. Comments are currently closed.

7 Responses to “US Divided Over Ryan/Obama Deficit Plans”

  1. Right of the People says:

    They don’t have a plan of their own but they’ll oppose anything the GOP throws out there just on general principles.

    Steve, I think you may have hit on an idea, let’s present the plan on America Idol and have the fidiots who watch the show vote on it so we will know if it is any good.

  2. tranquil.night says:

    Demagoguery fail.

    Coincidentally, this idea of keeping your poll numbers high by just attacking your opponents and not committing to anything relevant or specific isn’t just a standard Liberal play.

    Hello Mittoast, Mitchtoast, and Huckaphony.

  3. untrainable says:

    I’m suprised that 14% have no opinion at all. Are these the vaunted independents we’re always hearing about. The ones everyone is supposed to pander to in order to get their highly sought after votes?

    So being independent has nothing to do with policy opinions, it just means you’re too intellectually weak to even HAVE an opinion. Funny that folks with no opinion even bother to participate in polls.

    And people wonder how a Marxist got elected president.

    • JohnMG says:

      I’m surprised that ONLY 14% don’t have an opinion since there were 53% who obviously didn’t have a clue about the fraud they elected in the first place. Checking him out was just too much trouble for them. And as usual, we must speculate that democrats were over-sampled in this poll in order to skew the results into what liberals consider respectable numbers.

      The results are too close…….I want a recount.

  4. proreason says:

    People need to understand what the basic problem with Medicare is.

    Politicians have promised unlimited medical benefits, but the taxes supporting the benefits are limited, as they must be. The politicians did it for naked self-interest…to buy votes, become powerful and live in luxury.

    It worked ok for a while, but now the demographics of the country have changed, and the medical field has discovered products and services that are good, but extremely expensive. So now the unlimited benefits can no longer be paid for. And actually, it’s even worse than that. The politicians steal the funding and spend it to buy more votes.

    The problem, as defined by politicians who crave to remain in power, CANNOT BE SOLVED. People cannot be given unlimited medical benefits, and no amount of taxation will ever solve that. Higher taxes might delay the collapse of the system, but at the risk of causing an even greater problem…collapsing the entire country.

    So the criminal marxists “solution”, which they do everything in their power to deny, is death panels.

    Paul Ryan’s solution is to cap the payments by putting them in the form of insurance vouchers. This DOES NOT give unlimited benefits either, but at least it leaves life and death decisions in the hands of families and doctors, not death panels staffed by unelected commisars.

    Doing nothing will collapse the country financially in a few years. Raising taxes is a hopeless stopgap and will collapse the country finacially a few years later, except that the collapse would happen from the higher taxes before the ponzi scheme collapses it.

    For any thinking person, the choice is easy. Like for nearly every other decision when the choice is between marxism and freedom…choose life.

  5. tranquil.night says:

    “Everything he has done is part of an effort to solve the middle class problem.” – Doc0

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