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US, Taliban, Afghans Are Talking – ‘Secretly’

From the Wall Street Journal:

U.S., Afghans in Taliban Talks

Karzai Says Secret Three-Way Negotiations Over Peace Settlement Have Begun

By YAROSLAV TROFIMOV And MATT MURRAY
February 16, 2012

KABUL—The U.S. and Afghan governments have begun secret three-way talks with the Taliban, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told The Wall Street Journal, disclosing an important breakthrough in efforts to end the 10-year war.

Mr. Karzai, whose government had protested being left out of recent talks between Washington and the insurgents, added he believes most Taliban are "definitively" interested in a peace settlement.

"There have been contacts between the U.S. government and the Taliban, there have been contacts between the Afghan government and the Taliban, and there have been some contacts that we have made, all of us together, including the Taliban," Mr. Karzai said in the interview Wednesday in his office at the Arg Palace in Kabul.

He declined to specify the location of the talks or go into further detail, saying he feared that could damage the process…

We certainly wouldn’t want the Taliban to get discouraged and go home, now that victory is in sight.

U.S. officials cautioned against reading too much into what came out of the three-way session, which was held in the past month to prepare the ground for further contacts.

Taliban spokesmen couldn’t be reached to comment.

Meetings between Taliban emissaries and the U.S. in recent months have centered on opening a Taliban office in the Persian Gulf emirate of Qatar, and on confidence-building measures such as a possible transfer to Qatar of Taliban detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, U.S. and Taliban officials said…

Yes, releasing terrorists from Guantanamo so they can go back to war on us would be definitely "confidence-building" – for the terrorists.

These contacts began gaining traction about a year ago, after U.S. and German diplomats secretly met an aide to Taliban leader Mullah Omar, U.S. officials said.

You have to wonder how much money we have given the Taliban during that year.

The U.S. has been regularly briefing Kabul about these discussions, Mr. Karzai said. Until now, however, the insurgents have declared publicly that they won’t negotiate with Mr. Karzai’s "puppet regime."

So we know we can take them at their word.

Significant hurdles to any possible deal remain, the largest being what Kabul and Washington say is Pakistani support for Afghan militant groups.

Mr. Karzai said he will ask for Islamabad’s help in the peace outreach at a summit on Thursday in Pakistan with the Pakistani and Iranian presidents.

"Pakistan’s cooperation would make the whole matter easier for us, for the Taliban, and for the U.S.," he said…

Obviously, we will have to give Pakistan more money.

Afghan efforts to open contacts with the Taliban were dealt a blow in September with the assassination of the top Afghan negotiator, former President Burhanuddin Rabbani. Afghan officials blamed the killing, by a purported Taliban emissary who arrived from Pakistan, on Pakistani intelligence. Pakistan denied the charge…

We hope they don’t let this kind of minor setbacks stop them in their noble mission.

The latest round of talks is taking place after U.S. officials said they verified the bona fides of their Taliban interlocutors, and after the Taliban’s leadership officially confirmed the group is talking with the U.S

Yes, let’s make sure we are giving our millions to the right terrorists. Mistakes have been made.

Mr. Karzai said…"People in Afghanistan want peace, including the Taliban. They’re also people like we all are. They have families, they have relatives, they have children, they are suffering a tough time," he said. "There are a lot of people in the Taliban who are the sons of the soil, and who do not want this country, the people of this country, to suffer."

The one thing we know for sure is that the Taliban love peace and hate violence.

In the partnership talks with the U.S., friction persists over Mr. Karzai’s demands the U.S.-led military coalition end night raids on Afghan homes, and that the U.S. transfer all Afghan prisoners to Afghan custody.

In other words, Mr. Karzai is demanding that we stop attacking the Taliban and that we free all of our prisoners. That sounds fair.

Thank goodness he is on our side.

This article was posted by Steve on Thursday, February 16th, 2012. Comments are currently closed.

7 Responses to “US, Taliban, Afghans Are Talking – ‘Secretly’”

  1. River0 says:

    I’m so glad these talks are “secret”! Can you imagine what would happen if word leaked out? People might lose confidence in a government and military that was so corrupt and inept that it allowed American lives to be destroyed along with our national wealth!

  2. Mithrandir says:

    This only makes sense. The corrupt Afghanistan regime who claimed they would side with Pakistan if the U.S. attacked, after all of our billions in blood and money spent to liberate their country.

    The graft, fraud / waste / abuse, and secret dealings no doubt between the formal government and the lawless taliban that have been going on since day 1.

    The baksheesh system the taliban are now expecting from the U.S. as is customary in that part of the world.

    The U.S. is probably all too happy to take whatever they are given in the deal, since the troops will someday pull out. The U.S. politicians probably are making some agreement that the place reverts back to hell in a way that properly shifts blame.

    It should be of no surprise since the billions we gave Pakistan resulted in them hiding bin laden in their own backyard.

    Our W.W.II “allies” such as China and Russia slammed the door in our face as soon as they could. France didn’t even pay their war debt to us, as we forgave much of it, even though they dragged us into WW2 by demanding war debt from Germany.
    Our French “pals” also sure helped us out in Vietnam. Our “buddies” in south Vietnam didn’t want to fight for their own country. Our “friends” in Cambodia didn’t want to assist us in Vietnam to help fight the commies, then it is all our fault b/c we didn’t help them fight their own commies shortly thereafter.

    Stop pretending we actually have friends in this world. They take advantage of us, beg for money, then screw us as soon as possible. When will we learn?

  3. GetBackJack says:

    I’m literally speechless

  4. canary says:

    Karzai can only talk in secret because his top aids and corrupt brother have all been assassinated.
    No one wants to be in the same room with Karzai.

    Interesting government reports before Obama came into office the Taliban and Al-Qaida were one and the same.
    Obama added more smoke to the screen that the Taliban are just poor tribal peasants.

    Further government reports were that “Iran” wanted in with Al-Qaida and Taliban, but Al-Qaida did not want to jeopardize their relations with Saudi Arabia.

    • canary says:

      Karzai is no doubt seeking asylum in the U.S. He will take another trip with the U.S. top General to Ft. Campbell and revisit Ft. Campbell’s Memorial for U.S. Soldier grave site there and pick his own plot one foot under shroud rapped body go green burial. It will be a special area for all Islamic practicing soldiers who serve as they are entitled to their own special U.S. paid site.

      Just as Obama exempted U.S. Muslims from Obamacare required IRS ran health care, in Obamacare.

    • canary says:

      here’s an article in which my opinion Napolitano’s is blaming Jewish communities in U.S. on predicted Hezbollah terror attack on U.S. soil. How many Hezbollah terrorists are sneaking over the border and through 800 foot tunnels into the U.S.

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-15/hezbollah-terror-attack-on-u-s-soil-is-cited-as-possibility-by-napolitano.html

  5. canary says:

    update: hostage count growing in Egypt backed U.S. as muslim brotherhood adds their weight

    The Washington Post: Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood backs military in dispute with US over pro-democracy groups

    Feb 15 2011 AP – CAIRO — Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood on Wednesday threw its weight behind the country’s military-backed government in an escalating dispute with the U.S. over the funding of pro-democracy groups.

    Cairo claims that the groups are fomenting protests against the country’s military rulers, and has referred 16 Americans and 27 others to criminal court. Six Americans are barred from leaving the country.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/egypts-muslim-brotherhood-rejects-us-pressure-over-funding-of-pro-democracy-groups/2012/02/15/gIQAC22sFR_story.html

    Someone told me we have U.S. troops on ground in Syria now. Who knows.
    Can’t remember some religious author out there selling his new book how he predicted the wonderful Arab Spring of Democracy Spreading. Too busy to notice what’s happening.

    Our old ready Navy Ship on that was on the destroy and recycle list resurrected as a proxy duck now paddling inches closer to Iran’s threatening line drawn in the seas.


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