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US Won’t Extradite CIA For Italy Show Trials

From a disappointed Reuters:

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U.S. says will not extradite CIA agents to Italy

By Mark John Wed Feb 28

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The United States will reject any request by Italy to extradite CIA agents for the first criminal trial over controversial U.S. “renditions” of terror suspects, a U.S. government lawyer said on Wednesday.

A Milan judge earlier this month ordered 26 Americans, most of them thought to be CIA agents, to stand trial with Italian spies for kidnapping a Muslim cleric and flying him to Egypt, where he says he was tortured.

“We’ve not got an extradition request from Italy … If we got an extradition request from Italy, we would not extradite U.S. officials to Italy,” State Department Legal Adviser John Bellinger told a news briefing.

Bellinger, in Brussels for meetings with European legal advisers, did not comment on details of the case but said the United States would never hand over a suspect to another country without assurances about their treatment.

He acknowledged widespread concern in Europe about the tactics of the Bush administration in what it calls the “war on terror” but said the risk of legal action against U.S. officials in Europe was harming intelligence cooperation.

“The continuing threat of criminal charges not only harms cooperation on our end but does also cast a pall over cooperation on the European side as well,” he said.

“We get assurances from countries that individuals will be properly treated and if we can’t get these assurances then we will not turn people over to those countries,” he added.

Bellinger’s remarks were no surprise and meant the indictees would probably stand trial in absentia on June 8…

This nonsense has been answered very cogently by David Rivkin Lee Casey in an editorial published in the Washington Post:

Europe’s Runaway Prosecutions

By David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey
Wednesday, February 28, 2007; A19

An Italian court announced this month that it is moving forward with the indictment and trial of 25 CIA agents charged with kidnapping a radical Muslim cleric. These proceedings may well violate international law, but the case serves as a wake-up call to the United States. Overseas opponents of American foreign policy are increasingly turning to judicial proceedings against individual American officials as a means of reformulating or frustrating U.S. aims, and action to arrest this development is needed.

The Italian case involves a 2003 CIA mission to apprehend an Egyptian cleric named Osama Mustafa Hassan Nasr. Suspected of terrorist ties, Nasr was seized in Milan and transported to Egypt, where he claims he was tortured. This was, of course, an “extraordinary rendition” — a long-standing and legal practice that generally involves the cooperation of two or more governments in the capture and transportation of a criminal suspect outside of normal extradition proceedings. It was through such a rendition that the terrorist “Carlos the Jackal” was delivered for trial to France from Sudan in 1994.

The United States has used extraordinary renditions as part of the war on terrorism, but the continuing value of this tactic, particularly in Europe, is questionable. One of the primary European objections to the concept of a “war” on terrorism is the fear that U.S. forces will treat Europe as a battlefield. Although this fear is specious — international law has long provided that, even in wartime, a nation cannot pursue its enemies into the territory of friendly countries without their express permission — extraordinary rendition gets uncomfortably close to U.S. military operations on European streets. Moreover, unlike many other aspects of U.S. policy, extraordinary rendition can probably be abandoned without severely undercutting the war effort. That being the case, and given the obvious and increasing hard feelings the policy has prompted in Europe, extraordinary renditions should end.

Yet the United States must still vigorously resist the prosecution of its indicted agents. If they acted with the knowledge and consent of the Italian government (as The Post’s Dana Priest reported in 2005), they are immune from criminal prosecution in that country. Although foreign nationals traveling abroad are ordinarily subject to local judicial authority, international law has long recognized an exception for government agents entering another country with its government’s permission. As Chief Justice John Marshall explained in The Schooner Exchange v. McFaddon (1812), an early Supreme Court case involving the immunity of a French warship in American waters, “[o]ne sovereign being in no respect amendable to another . . . can be supposed to enter a foreign territory only under an express license, or in the confidence that the immunities belonging to his independent sovereign nation, though not expressly stipulated, are reserved by implication.”

Because of this general rule, elaborate Status of Forces Agreements are negotiated before the troops of one state are stationed in another. These agreements usually narrow the jurisdictional immunities to be enjoyed by American troops stationed abroad, although under the NATO Status of Forces Agreements, to which Italy and the United States are both parties, America retains primary jurisdiction over offenses committed by individuals on duty — as would have been the case here. If the Status of Forces Agreement does not apply — as it might not, because intelligence agents are involved — then the general rule applies. In either case, it is up to American, not Italian, authorities to determine whether any offense was committed in the capture and rendition of Nasr.

Unfortunately, the effort to prosecute these American agents is only one instance of a growing problem. Efforts to use domestic and international legal systems to intimidate U.S. officials are proliferating, especially in Europe. Cases are pending in Germany against other CIA agents and former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld — all because of controversial aspects of the war on terrorism. These follow Belgium’s misguided effort to pursue “universal jurisdiction” claims for alleged violations of international law, which also resulted in complaints against American officials including Vice President Cheney and former secretary of state Colin Powell. That law was amended, but the overall problem is unlikely to go away. The initiation of judicial proceedings against individual Americans is too attractive a means of striking at the United States — and one often not subject to control by the relevant foreign government.

Accordingly, Congress should make it a crime to initiate or maintain a prosecution against American officials if the proceeding itself otherwise violates accepted international legal norms. Thus, in instances where there is a clear case of immunity, U.S. prosecutors could answer proceedings such as the Italian indictments with criminal proceedings in U.S. courts. By responding in kind, even if few overreaching foreign officials are ever actually tried, such a law would create a powerful disincentive for these kinds of legal antics.

The authors served in the Justice Department under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and have been expert members of the U.N. Subcommission on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights.

Europe has gone insane.

They are suicidal.

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16 Responses to “US Won’t Extradite CIA For Italy Show Trials”

  1. Rip Cord

    Perhaps a boycott of Italy and It’s products here in the United States would help these people to “understand”. Hit ‘em in the wallet to facilitate learning.

  2. The Redneck

    But what does Italy actually produce?

    Answer that, and you have the reason for this whole farce–they’re trying to slow their inevitable slide into irrelevence, and they know that this will get them a great deal of support from the moonbats–which, to me, is proof as to how anti-American the proceeding is.

  3. Rip Cord

    Don’t they produce Pizza and spaghetti? They have a lot of tourism dont they?
    Go to the Eastern European countries instead. OUR true allies.

  4. Lurkin_no_mo

    SG has it right. It’s not just Italy, it is almost all of Europe. Ya know Europe. It’s that country that MSM and Hollyweird types would rather live in… if it weren’t for the high taxes.
    Well, some of the mega-rich do choose to live here, like George Clue(less)ney, but they keep the money in the States and Switzerland.

  5. newshound

    OK. The Reuters article has me confused. I think the State Department guy is talking about handing over the rendition people to the other countries. Not the CIA guys, there’s no chance of that. Is that a really confusing article.

    Even more outrageous, the Italians are going to try a US soldier for a friendly fire incident that happened in Iraq. It’s time for the US to get angry about this nonsense.

  6. sheehanjihad

    I wonder who the last person able to use the phone in Europe is going to call……

  7. DEZ

    They can call me.
    Now how can I give the finger over the phone.
    Oh yeah i will just say F*****F.

  8. Lurkin_no_mo

    It’ll be me. I’ll call you guys.
    I’ll probably be asking for donations of arms and ammo.

  9. DEZ

    Lurkin, I will assume you are in the UK.
    Thank god they still have people like you.
    Call for ammo, Call for arms.
    But if all else fails move to the states, You have freinds here.

  10. Lurkin_no_mo

    Oh, Dez! Thanks for the support. It’s even worse than that… I’m in Germany. On the bright side, I’m near Euro conservatives, and I am NOT in France.

  11. DEZ

    Germany I hope is not all that bad, Yes they had Hitler, But hell we have two Clintons.
    Some of the best engineers I have ever met were German.
    My Great Grandfather was German on my mothers side.
    I have many letters from him to the family durring WW2, I really need to sit and read them.
    I am a mutt if you will, German, Irish and Cherokee.
    Needless to say I love beer, Whiskey and the outdoors. ;-)

  12. Lurkin_no_mo

    Dez, we must be near brothers. My Dad’s side was German, Mom’s Irish. Don’t know of any native American blood. I’m married to a German who is as conservative as most Germans get without being fascist. My son considers himself American..Hooah! He’s into competition shooting and has won, or his team has won, several tournaments. Germans have some pretty tough gun laws, so just being able to do it is amazing. I used to be the deputy intel chief in an Engineer group, but they didn’t trust me to build anything. They tried to make me an Engineer Officer, but the only math skill I have is check book balancing. Love my Jack Daniels, with a little coke cuz I’m such a sweet guy. Okay, the sweet guy part might be a stretch…
    I’m just a semi-admin type now helping train soldiers. I probably could still do the the hard things, but it’s a young guys world when you’re doing the fighting. At my age my butt makes a huge target. Let’s all thank God for these kids and pray for their safety. They are the studs!

  13. DEZ

    LOL, As far as I am concerned you are family, I kinda find this site my home in cyberspace.
    I like my Jack Danials, But I love makers, But for the most part I just have a beer now and again.
    Freinds are freinds regardless of borders.

  14. Lurkin_no_mo

    Awhile back SJ and some of the others were talking about a good ol’ S&L get together. Maybe some day we can all make that happen.

  15. Lurkin_no_mo

    Okay, shifts over. Lurker’s gonna go lurk off to bed. Night..er, morning, Dez and anyone else up at this hour.

  16. choosesomething

    How’s THAT taste Europe?!!!!!!


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