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Colleagues Believed Hasan Dangerous

From National Public Radio:

Walter Reed Officials Asked: Was Hasan Psychotic?

by Daniel Zwerdling

November 11, 2009

Starting in the spring of 2008, key officials from Walter Reed Army Medical Center and the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences held a series of meetings and conversations, in part about Maj. Nidal Hasan, the man accused of killing 13 people and wounding dozens of others last week during a shooting spree at Fort Hood. One of the questions they pondered: Was Hasan psychotic?

"Put it this way," says one official familiar with the conversations that took place. "Everybody felt that if you were deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, you would not want Nidal Hasan in your foxhole."

In documents reviewed by NPR and conversations with medical officials at Walter Reed and USUHS, new details have emerged regarding serious concerns that officials raised about Hasan during his time at both institutions.

Hasan spent six years as a psychiatrist at Walter Reed, beginning in 2003, and he had a fellowship at USUHS until shortly before he went to Fort Hood in the summer of 2009. A committee of officials from both places regularly meets once a month to discuss pressing topics surrounding the psychiatrists and other mental health professionals who train and work at the institutions…

When a group of key officials gathered in the spring of 2008 for their monthly meeting in a Bethesda, Md., office, one of the leading — and most perplexing — items on their agenda was: What should we do about Hasan?

Hasan had been a trouble spot on officials’ radar since he started training at Walter Reed, six years earlier. Several officials confirm that supervisors had repeatedly given him poor evaluations and warned him that he was doing substandard work.

Both fellow students and faculty were deeply troubled by Hasan’s behavior — which they variously called disconnected, aloof, paranoid, belligerent, and schizoid. The officials say he antagonized some students and faculty by espousing what they perceived to be extremist Islamic views. His supervisors at Walter Reed had even reprimanded him for telling at least one patient that "Islam can save your soul." …

But psychiatrists and officials who are familiar with the conversations, which continued into the spring of 2009, say they took a remarkable turn: Is it possible, some mused, that Hasan was mentally unstable and unfit to be an Army psychiatrist?

One official involved in the conversations had reportedly told colleagues that he worried that if Hasan deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, he might leak secret military information to Islamic extremists. Another official reportedly wondered aloud to colleagues whether Hasan might be capable of committing fratricide, like the Muslim U.S. Army sergeant who, in 2003, killed two fellow soldiers and injured 14 others by setting off grenades at a base in Kuwait.

So why didn’t officials act on their concerns and seek to remove Hasan from his duties, or at least order him to receive a mental health evaluation? Interviews with these officials suggest that a chain of unrelated events and factors deterred them.

For one thing, Walter Reed and most medical institutions have a cumbersome and lengthy process for expelling doctors, involving hearings and potential legal battles. As a result, sources say, key decision-makers decided it would be too difficult, if not unfeasible, to put Hasan on probation and possibly expel him from the program.

Second, some of Hasan’s supervisors and instructors had told colleagues that they repeatedly bent over backward to support and encourage him, because they didn’t have clear evidence that he was unstable, and they worried they might be "discriminating" against Hasan because of his seemingly extremist Islamic beliefs.

Third, the officials involved in deliberations this year reportedly were not aware, as some top Walter Reed officials were, that intelligence analysts had been tracking Hasan’s e-mails with at least one suspected Islamic extremist since December 2008.

And finally, Hasan was about to leave Walter Reed and USUHS for good and transfer to Fort Hood, in Texas. Fort Hood has more psychiatrists and other mental specialists than some other Army bases, so officials figured there would be plenty of co-workers who would support Hasan — and monitor him.

We’re not sure why NPR put a question mark in their headline. (Maybe they were concerned about lawsuits.)

But can there be any doubt what some of his fellow mental health professionals thought about him?

This article was posted by Steve on Thursday, November 12th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

6 Responses to “Colleagues Believed Hasan Dangerous”

  1. proreason says:

    Don’t be confused about the purpose of most of the reporting that’s being done.

    It isn’t designed to prove Hasan was a Terrorist.

    Exactly the opposite.

    It is designed to prove he is a “typical insane person”.

    And hence, any relationship to Islam is entirely coincidental, and meaningless.

  2. wardmama4 says:

    My thought exactly – get that word – psychotic out there and then his defense will be – not guilty because of insanity.

    And thus there will be no terrorism (on American soil) during the Obama Administration, there will be no connection/repercussions to Islam/Muslims and of course – no death penalty – as he might be ‘cured’ in the future.

    A real win-win option for the muslim raised POTUS – if you really want to think about it.

  3. Tater Salad says:

    November 10, 2009

    Jihadists In Military Playing U.S. for Suckers


    by Cal Thomas

    By now, the script should be disturbingly familiar. Whether in the Middle East, or increasingly in America, a fanatical Muslim blows up or goes on a shooting spree, killing many. This is quickly followed by “condemnations” from “Muslim civil rights groups,” like the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). We are then warned by the president and some newspaper editorials not to jump to conclusions, or to stereotype. Yasser Arafat wrote this script, which he used with great success throughout his bloody career as a terrorist.

    Suddenly, the issue of gays in the military doesn’t seem as important as jihadists in the military. If you were an enemy of America, not only would you fight overseas and develop nuclear weapons (Iran), you would also engage in an even more effective strategy by striking at America’s underbelly. This is our most vulnerable region because we now tolerate virtually everything, indulge in political correctness and subscribe to a bogus belief that if radical Islamists can see we mean them no harm, they will mean us no harm.

    The federal government at all levels has hired and promoted Muslims to influential positions. It requires “sensitivity training” for federal employees, including those who work at the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Last week, the House Judiciary Committee, dominated by liberal Democrats, defied the White House and removed from the USA Patriot Act a tool for tracking non-U.S. citizens in anti-terrorism investigations. As our enemies grow stronger and more emboldened, they see us becoming weaker and less committed.

    No amount of evidence — from Koran verses urging the killing of “infidels,” to cries of “God is great,” reportedly shouted by the alleged Ft. Hood shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan — will cure our self-deception. Sun Tzu famously wrote that all war is deception. But it takes two to deceive and the United States is behaving like a willing partner.

    People claiming to know Hasan told interviewers he made frequent statements against the wars and the U.S. presence in Islamic countries. Texas Republican Rep. Michael McCaul, told reporters after he was briefed on the shootings that Hasan “took a lot of advanced training in shooting.” Why would a psychiatrist need advanced training in shooting unless he believed in murder as therapy? Shouldn’t that, coupled with his statements about “the aggressor” and other actions — including his preference for Muslim clothing — have alerted someone in authority that he might be a time bomb waiting to go off? Yes, absolutely. But who wants to jeopardize a career by raising such questions and becoming the target of “civil rights groups” and politically correct dupes? Intimidating Americans into silence when they know better is also a very effective strategy when fighting a war.

    Sound minds not brainwashed by our own “re-educators” should have seen this coming. Though born in America to Jordanian immigrant parents, Hasan described himself as a “Palestinian.” He got into trouble by attempting to proselytize some of his patients.

    Most top federal agencies, including the Pentagon and DHS, now have offices of “civil liberties,” offices recommended by the 9/11 Commission to focus on “outreach” to the Muslim community. In this, they follow efforts by the Bush administration, which dispatched Karen Hughes to tell Muslim women in Saudi Arabia that American women are so free they can drive their own cars. The Saudi women were not impressed.

    It’s one thing to be suckered by others. It’s quite another to sucker yourself.

    How much longer will we tolerate fighting this war as if it were a minor crime wave? Our enemies are fighting to win and they are fighting everywhere, including within our borders. People trained to appear non-threatening, until the threat becomes obvious and it is too late to do anything about it, are infiltrating our government and society at every level.

    It is irrelevant that some have put the number of radicalized Muslims worldwide at 10 percent. Even if that figure is accurate, one hundred million jihadists can cause a lot of damage, as they plot the destruction of Western democracies. Other wars have been won with far fewer soldiers and far fewer dupes.

  4. Tater Salad says:

    Right here in our own backyard of Minnesota:

    Daily Digest

    Militant extremism alert in Minnesota
    Kirchick versus Klein
    The Times Explains
    Honoring Veterans All Year ‘Round
    More dithering
    Militant extremism alert in Minnesota

    Posted: 12 Nov 2009 06:28 AM PST

    Sometimes it seems that the Twin Cities is a central front in the struggle against the phenomenon renamed “militant extremism” in the Age of Obama. Minneapolis seems to have proved a fertile source of funds for “militant extremists” who have set up shop in Jordan, Lebanon and the Palestinian territories. Minneapolis was also the site of the production brought to us by the flying imams.

    The Twin Cities area is home to a large population of Somali Muslim refugees. Students drawn from this population form the core of the Tarek ibn Ziyad Academy in suburban St. Paul that operates as a Muslim charter school on the public dime under the supervision of a leader of the Minnesota chapter of the Muslim American Society. I have written about TiZA at length here several times, as in “What is to be done?”

    Since we started writing about the school, the ACLU Minnesota has filed a lawsuit pending in federal court challenging the constitutionality of TiZA’s public funding. We discussed the lawsuit most recently in “Judge Frank denies TiZA’s dismissal motion.”

    Minneapolis is also the site of a recruiting operation for Somali terrorists (sorry, “militant extremists”). An intensive federal investigation of the operation has been ongoing in Minneapolis over the past year or two. The Star Tribune reports that a 43-year-old Somali man from Minneapolis was arrested this week in the Netherlands for allegedly financing the recruitment of up to 20 young Somali men from Minnesota to train and fight with terrorists in their homeland.

    With any luck the man, who was arrested Sunday at an asylum-seeker’s center 45 miles northeast of Amsterdam, will be extradited to Minnesota and prosecuted. We’d like a little more information about the operation and we’re a little concerned about what might happen with the Minnesota jihadis trained in Somalia if and when they make their way back to Minnesota.

  5. canary says:

    This is military propaganda to detract from the fact that Hasan was terrorist, or are they saying they are such pathetic doctor’s they couldn’t tell if Hasan was psychotic or schizoid. No way with as much lengthy contact
    would they have not noticed him talking to the walls, climbing the walls, hearing things. That was one of my military jobs. The stress and rigidness of serving in the military makes psychotic schizoids come out pretty clear. They are not allowed to serve. The military is not going to put someone that severely ill on medication and keep them. They are immediately ambulanced (usually in confined during the ride, even if they aren’t displaying the signs, for safety reasons during the drive) to a military post where they have proper facilities to keep them. Ft. Hood may have such a facility. We took army personal on a long drive to an Air Force base.

    Now this is strange. On Greta they showed footage and interview at the apartment of Hasan. And they found a box of self-prescribed pills (Hasan prescribed himself medication) which would not be legal. And if he took military prescriptions to an off base pharmacy, the pharmacy is to report it. I do not believe the investigative team left that box of pills in there for the apt manager to clean up One box looked to me like anti-acids. And military personal aren’t suppose to go to non-military doctor’s, either. But, no telling what was going on. And no telling who put that box there, to create this spin, to detract that every single sign he was a muslim terrorist was present. Plus, the 7-11 interviewed said that morning was the first Hasan came in with his top of head to bottom of toe in white garb, and she asked about it. She said she noticed a since “of peacefulness about him’.
    I was thinking he probably was knocked up on medication, so when he was shot 4 times, he continued (there was a long winding path of blood he left)
    and he felt pretty good about what he did. In Vietnam the North would take opium, to they could fight longer after being shot. Course made them a bad aim. One interviewed said he was going to do Allah’s work today that morning. I’m so sorry our country, troops, and the wounded and loved ones and families have to live through the insanity in this country, on top of their loss.

    I wonder how many muslims work for the NYT’s, Rueters (maybe Obama was the only one)

  6. proreason says:

    Inquiring minds ask: what if Hasan shot up Harvard Yard, or Hyde Park, or Rodeo Drive, or heaven forbid, the offices of the NY Slimes?

    I mean really, the people he killed, when you get right down to it, were just a bunch of losers so deficient that they got stuck in the Army and were being shipped off to a war zone.

    What if he had killed some important people, or some progressive people? Would the reaction of our watchdog media be any different?

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