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What CNN Learned From Afghan Losses

From a purposefully duplicitous CNN:

The Department of Defense released these photos as they announced on Wednesday, Oct. 7, 2009 the death of eight soldiers who were supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

Fallen soldiers remembered as devoted fathers, heroes

By Emanuella Grinberg

(CNN) — Stephan Mace of the Army’s 61st Cavalry Regiment knew the Taliban would be waiting for him when he returned to eastern Afghanistan in September.

During a two-week leave in early September, the 21-year-old specialist sat on his father’s couch in Winchester, Virginia, and discussed his concerns over Forward Operating Base Keating in Kamdesh District, a region known as a Taliban stronghold.

"He talked about the village next to the base, that it had 300 Taliban, and they couldn’t do anything about it because they were in mosques hiding or with other civilians," says his father, Larry Mace.

"They knew they were there and they couldn’t do anything about it and they killed them."

Mace was one of eight American soldiers killed in a 12-hour standoff on Saturday. That was the most Americans killed by hostile action in Afghanistan in a single day since last July, when nine soldiers died in Wanat, just 20 miles away.

Some military analysts say the attacks underscore how outnumbered troops are in that region. The United States believes that about 200 insurgents had been planning Saturday’s attack for days, hiding mortars, rockets and heavy machine guns in the mountains, sources have told CNN.

"What were the lessons learned?"

Peter Bergen, a CNN terrorism analyst, said Saturday’s attack shows the extent to which lessons from last year’s attack have been implemented.

"It is supposed to be a lessons-learned exercise," Bergen said. "And then, exactly 20 miles away from the event about a year ago, exactly the same kind of attack happened."

In the Wanat fight, 49 U.S. troops were attacked by nearly 200 Taliban fighters, and the base was later abandoned.

"So, you have to ask yourself, what were the lessons learned? Or were the lessons not implemented? And these remote combat outposts, you know, are obviously sitting ducks," Bergen said

What were the lessons learned? We’re not sure CNN’s ‘terrorism analyst’ is the person to ask.

The problem is not that we have soldiers at “remote combat outposts.” That is exactly where they have to be to fight the Taliban. (Which is why CNN wants them pulled back.)

As Sgt. Mace himself rightfully pointed out, the problem is that the Taliban are hiding in the villages, holed up in Mosques and using the local civilians as shields.

And the real lesson is that we cannot allow them to continue to do that.

But, alas, the Obama administration is moving precisely in the opposition direction, by imposing new restrictions against fighting anywhere near civilian houses.

For the record, this article was originally titled "Soldier knew Taliban was waiting for him," but CNN subsequently changed it to "Fallen soldiers remembered as devoted fathers, heroes."

Not only does this show that CNN consciously chose to downplay the true lesson to be gained from these brave soldiers’ deaths, it serves as a perfect example of the feminazation (or, chickafication) of the news.

The above excerpt contains 307 words. But rather than addressing the real problem in our current Afghanistan strategy, the reporter, Ms. Grinberg goes on for another 1,146 words describing the young soldier’s childhood, his family and friends.

Which is perhaps of human interest. Sgt. Mace was a courageous young man and a true hero. But would it not be more important to address the real problems facing all of our soldiers over there?

After all, it was crystal clear to him what the problem was.

Why not do Sgt Mace the honor of getting his message out? That we should prevent the Taliban from finding refuge in the Mosques and among the civilian population.

Instead, CNN used his death to try to argue the opposite position, that we should withdraw and give over the vast Afghanistan countryside to the terrorists.

But, of course, unlike Sgt. Mace, they want us to lose the war.

(Thanks to Master Of Metacognition for the heads up.)

This article was posted by Steve on Thursday, October 8th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

16 Responses to “What CNN Learned From Afghan Losses”

  1. Rusty Shackleford says:

    “But, alas, the Obama administration is moving precisely in the opposition direction, by imposing new restrictions against fighting anywhere near civilian houses.”


    This typical liberal approach to warfare…that “well, if we have to fight…then I suggest we fight without offending anyone” is simply the most gum-headed thing I have ever witnessed in my life.

    There can only be a couple of reasons for this. 1) This administration is really that stupid, 2) It’s intentional and when the whole thing becomes an unmanageable mess, the boy-king finds the most suitable target of blame, declares them a failure, and does “what the people want” which is to pull out altogether and declare “non-victory” for the US.

    After all, isn’t Vietnam one of our best buds now….so many years after the horrible defeat there? So much tourism and exchange of ideas going on? Oh, ignore the trafficking in drugs and humans as property (slavery for those of you in Rio Linda).

    Regardless of how or why it’s happening, Obama…you are responsible. And YOU will be judged as the final cause that our young people are getting killed over there. I submit that right NOW you are committing treason against the United States by your actions and inaction. I hope I only live long enough to see you brought to justice.

    • proreason says:

      You are looking at it through the prism of a patriotic citizen, Rusty.

      He isn’t like you.

      Therefore, you can’t possibly rationalize it or understand it.

      Let this one go. And pray we minimize the loss of life until the criminals are evicted from their thrones.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      “You are looking at it through the prism of a patriotic citizen, Rusty.”

      Thank you.

      There are more like me and I work in a place that is easily 80% veterans. We cannot stomach this clown. Interestingly, one of the most copied and “cubicle posted” things is that Nathan R Jessup diatribe from “A Few Good Men” where Jack Nicholson goes on about how men have to protect lives, etc.

      Although most likely written by a liberal who thought he was denigrating the military, I read it and say, “Oh, you so get me”.

      Funny how that works, in a not-so-funny sort of way.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      And just for fun…here’s the quote in its entirety:

      Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago’s death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said “thank you,” and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

    • proreason says:

      That’s one of the alltime great movie lines.

      But, you know, it illustrates the unspannable chasm that separates people like us from hand-wringing libwits.

      They think that quote illustrates everything that is wrong with the country.

      We think it perfectly illustrates what is right with the country.

      And the marine in the movie was absolutely correct that the only thing that gives the hand-wringers the ability to spew their nonsense is people like the colonel and the millions who preceded him.

      If the military Atlas’s shrug (and I’m worried that they might. Who could blame them?), it’s all over but the shouting.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      “Put down your books and pick up a gun
      We’re gonna have a whole lot of fun”

      Country Joe and the Fish

  2. proreason says:

    The chances of winning in Afgahanistan with the Charley Male in charge of the country are zero. It doesn’t matter that we can win. It doesn’t matter that we should win. We won’t win with leadership that doesn’t want to win. Period.

    Unless the military, by staying there, can somehow surreptiously prepare the way to close out the battle when we elect a leader who cares about America, I hope we leave. And save hundreds of hero’s lives. And I doubt the military can conduct such an operation under the nose of the facists who rule us.

    Remember, it only took a few months to route the Taliban the first time, and that was before we had developed the capability. We can do it again after the Moron is in jail. And drone technology is much further advanced now than it was in 2002. It isn’t enough to defeat a dedicated enemy, but it’s good enough to disrupt training camps during the interim period while our criminal politicians are stuffing their pockets from the wealth of our country.

    • caligirl9 says:

      Exactly what I’ve been thinking the last month or so, PR.

      I’m of the opinion that if POTUS refuses to put our troops into a position where they can win, then bring every one of them home immediately.No slow measured exit, get ’em all out of there on the same day, the same hour.

      I’m sick of this coward putting men and women into an impossible position by asking them to fight a war where they have to adhere to “rules” and the enemy is allowed to do as they please, ’cause that’s the rules. He needs to take his sorry behind into that war zone and see how hamstrung our troops really are. Al Qaeda and the Taliban are counting on the ongoing ineptitude of the U.S. government to allow them to do as they please, where they please, and to whomever they please.

      It’s not a question of if we will hear from those terrorist groups. It’s when and where … sadly that is a given.

  3. Petronius says:

    Well said, Rusty and Pro.

    This piece is shocking––maddening––on so many levels it is difficult to know where to begin.

    Have we surrendered yet? Or are we still in apology mode?

    Will America ever have the resolve to fight another war to victory?

    Or is America finished?

    Finished by the triumph of the Liberal Death Wish?

    Yes, nothing can stop the decline, once the will-to-live is gone. Going, going, gone. That’s the message from Afghanistan. It has been the message of everything American for years, but now among the hills, villages, and wastelands of Afghanistan the message is deafening. It’s been heard in the halls of Congress. It’s been heard in the Pentagon, in Langley, and in the Department of Homeland Security. In the headquarters of the DNC. And in the White House.

    And they can’t avoid the message. Going, going, gone. And the little voice nagging, “What are you going to do about it?” And the petulant little answer, all in secret, of course, “Nothing.” And then the empty little scrotums tightening in fearful anticipation. They actually want the ultimate thrill –– to see brave American soldiers beheaded, beaten and kicked about by their barbarian conquerors. Bodies dragged through the dirty streets. Another Mogadishu. Yes, they can’t wait.

    America defeated by a rag-tag army of shabby, lice-infested savages.

    In time of war the idiocracy elected a two-bit community organizer and Bolshevik hoodlum as Commander-in-Chief. And this is what we get. Brave men dying.

    Under-manned outposts are overrun, while Nerobama worries about Mirandizing enemy fighters and closing GITMO.

    Army commanders call for reinforcements, and the call goes unanswered, while he vacillates between lobbying for the Olympics and imposing his socialist stamp on the medical professions.

    Iran builds nukes while Nerobama dithers and struts.

    Even the lowly amoeba has the instinct for self-preservation. Even the poorest, third-rate banana republic will have a military coup when the time is ripe.

  4. canary says:

    We have to keep our country free for these hero’s.

    Going on 72 hours with out any real news from Afganistan, thanks to the big button pusher. A repeat of Iran’s news close down.

  5. BannedbytheTaliban says:

    Carl von Clausewitz “On War”-

    “Now, philanthropists may easily imagine there is a skilful method of disarming and overcoming an enemy without great bloodshed, and that this is the proper tendency of the Art of War. However plausible this may appear, still it is an error which must be extirpated; for in such dangerous things as War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst.”

    It is amazing that the greatest military mind that ever lived would describe the entire liberal philosophy in such a way.

    • Petronius says:

      Sound advice from Clausewitz, but his point will be lost on Nerobama and the Liberals.

      Unless they are fighting an enemy on the right, Liberals never use sufficient force to assure victory.

      This is for the reason that, unlike us –– and our military service members –– Liberals do not believe in any of the things that are worth fighting for: God, country, Western Civilization, family, honor, or fellow soldiers.

      And the things Liberals believe in –– socialized medicine, open borders and multiculturalism, the IRS and the union shop –– are hardly worth fighting and dying for.

      Instead, Liberals will always use just enough force to produce the worst possible outcome from all points of view (reference Cuba, Katanga, Laos, Vietnam, Mogadishu, or Jimmy Carter’s disastrous desert sortie in Iran).

  6. Tater Salad says:

    As member of the 1st Marine Division, grunt, wounded in combat, I believe that this Afghanistan thing is out of touch with the military. There are too many rules of engagement placed on the infantry which is now requiring more troops for the mission to have a chance. Either we remove all rules of engagement or we get out now. There are just to many similarities of Afghanistan and Vietnam and this needs to be corrected immediately.

  7. Mister C says:

    Back in the early 70’s, during the SouthEast Asia wargames, we were being fired on by bad guys shooting from the openings in an old Vietnamese temple. As we gathered our dead and wounded, we were ordered to not return fire towards the temple; however, the surrounding countryside was declared a free fire zone. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    As long as combat is abstractly debated by political parasites, good people will die. Since the fifties, the U.S. has been internationally infamous for not having the courage to be cruel. Play to win, or don’t show up.

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