Comments on: WP Poll: Few Blame Economy On Obama http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:10:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: proreason http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140680 proreason Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:16:42 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140680 These polls are pure bullshit. The only valid poll would be to call x thousand random people of voting age, and the X is well-understood, since it can be derived from probability theory. I don't know the number, but it's a helluva lot bigger than 1,000. Every "factor" they introduce is just another way for them to manipulate the results. They have so many factors, they can get any stinking result they want. Dem/Rep split. Likely voters. Registered Voters. Different types of telephone. Racial split. Gender splits. Age splits. And then the manipulation of the questions.....ohmygod.....it's stomach turning. The only reason the good pollsters can get reasonably close in large elections is that the poll request is very simple....will you vote for Joe or for Mary? EVERYTHING else is propaganda...pure propaganda. Why any rational person would pay any attention whatsoever is astonishing. (The internal polls are more uesful because they aren't run for propaganda purposes. But the public never sees thoses.) These polls are pure bullshit.

The only valid poll would be to call x thousand random people of voting age, and the X is well-understood, since it can be derived from probability theory. I don’t know the number, but it’s a helluva lot bigger than 1,000.

Every “factor” they introduce is just another way for them to manipulate the results.

They have so many factors, they can get any stinking result they want. Dem/Rep split. Likely voters. Registered Voters. Different types of telephone. Racial split. Gender splits. Age splits.

And then the manipulation of the questions…..ohmygod…..it’s stomach turning.

The only reason the good pollsters can get reasonably close in large elections is that the poll request is very simple….will you vote for Joe or for Mary?

EVERYTHING else is propaganda…pure propaganda.

Why any rational person would pay any attention whatsoever is astonishing.

(The internal polls are more uesful because they aren’t run for propaganda purposes. But the public never sees thoses.)

]]> By: catie http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140676 catie Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:57:58 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140676 Me neither VMAN and I am a subscriber (well on Sundays only for the coupons as the rest goes straight to the trash). It's ridiculous how many more demorats they polled. However, in the District and the rich who are predominately liberal who inhabit NOVA are more than likely on their speed dial. They're not going to call the riff raff from PWC also known as "Deliverance" to those who live from Fairfax north. Me neither VMAN and I am a subscriber (well on Sundays only for the coupons as the rest goes straight to the trash). It’s ridiculous how many more demorats they polled. However, in the District and the rich who are predominately liberal who inhabit NOVA are more than likely on their speed dial. They’re not going to call the riff raff from PWC also known as “Deliverance” to those who live from Fairfax north.

]]> By: VMAN http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140674 VMAN Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:52:06 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140674 Nobody axed my opinion Nobody axed my opinion

]]> By: caligirl9 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140668 caligirl9 Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:20:16 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140668 What kind of bug? I'm looking for a change ... ;) Get it, <i>change</i>!!!! What kind of bug? I’m looking for a change … ;) Get it, change!!!!

]]> By: crosspatch http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140665 crosspatch Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:47:11 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140665 You need to oversample Democrats by 9% just to reflect current electorate divisions. Democrats and Republicans are not evenly split in the population. The split in February was 33.6% Republican, 40.8% Democrat, and 25.6 "other". If you are only sampling Democrats and Republicans, leaving out "others", you need to get 9% more Democrats than Republicans in order for your poll to reflect the voting public. A 12% split doesn't seem out of line if they did random calling and that was how the callers identified their party affiliation and the calls were made in urban areas. That probably accurately reflects the actual population in those areas. So at most the poll would be skewed 3% which is probably in the margin of error. You need to oversample Democrats by 9% just to reflect current electorate divisions. Democrats and Republicans are not evenly split in the population. The split in February was 33.6% Republican, 40.8% Democrat, and 25.6 “other”. If you are only sampling Democrats and Republicans, leaving out “others”, you need to get 9% more Democrats than Republicans in order for your poll to reflect the voting public.

A 12% split doesn’t seem out of line if they did random calling and that was how the callers identified their party affiliation and the calls were made in urban areas. That probably accurately reflects the actual population in those areas. So at most the poll would be skewed 3% which is probably in the margin of error.

]]> By: TwilightZoned http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140661 TwilightZoned Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:25:48 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140661 "A sharp rise in optimism has occurred among Democrats, who are about three times as likely to approve of the country’s course as they were just before Obama’s inauguration." 40% of the population is already on the government dole and the vast majority of these are dems. Since these worthless pieces of whammy are the ones who will make out like bandits, O would appear to be a "new-style," fiscally responsible Democrat. If they actually paid taxes, they would be the ones screaming the loudest against it. “A sharp rise in optimism has occurred among Democrats, who are about three times as likely to approve of the country’s course as they were just before Obama’s inauguration.”

40% of the population is already on the government dole and the vast majority of these are dems. Since these worthless pieces of whammy are the ones who will make out like bandits, O would appear to be a “new-style,” fiscally responsible Democrat. If they actually paid taxes, they would be the ones screaming the loudest against it.

]]> By: proreason http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140656 proreason Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:37:43 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140656 You have a great idea there for a website, mama. Click on the Congresscriminals name, and get the history with references, and case #'s. You have a great idea there for a website, mama.

Click on the Congresscriminals name, and get the history with references, and case #’s.

]]> By: annabetsy http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140648 annabetsy Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:53:11 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140648 The problem is too many kool-aide drinkers haven't been hit yet with the stomach pains that signify their impending death. They are still convinced the warning labels were put on it by conspirators on the "right". The problem is too many kool-aide drinkers haven’t been hit yet with the stomach pains that signify their impending death.
They are still convinced the warning labels were put on it by conspirators on the “right”.

]]> By: annabetsy http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140647 annabetsy Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:42:17 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140647 He's too big to fail. Civilizations have been known to worship anything from bugs & dead statues to rocks. Why not a straw man? I had hoped for better from Americans; but I blame poor education. He’s too big to fail.
Civilizations have been known to worship anything from bugs & dead statues to rocks. Why not a straw man? I had hoped for better from Americans; but I blame poor education.

]]> By: proreason http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140641 proreason Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:27:19 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140641 Communism with a big C Communism with a big C

]]> By: Right of the People http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140637 Right of the People Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:20:22 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140637 Of course you realize this poll was taken at a DC welfare office. What do you want to bet the Moron's ratings will never drop below 60% as long as the MSM is doing the polling? Of course you realize this poll was taken at a DC welfare office. What do you want to bet the Moron’s ratings will never drop below 60% as long as the MSM is doing the polling?

]]> By: bullforever http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140636 bullforever Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:16:16 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140636 Barney Frank at it again. Anyone else catch this article? http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Beyond-AIG-A-Bill-to-let-Big-Government-Set-Your-Salary-42158597.html Barney Frank at it again. Anyone else catch this article?

http://www.washingtonexaminer......58597.html

]]> By: wardmama4 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140634 wardmama4 Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:05:52 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140634 Maybe if the msm (I know, but I can dream) printed out how many Congresscritters have oh say - committed a crime - or had an ethics charge lodge against them - or been investigated and <b>then</b> printed Congressional pay scale, how long (isn't it two terms?!) to qualify for retirement, their retirement (sure aren't relying on SS to get them through their golden years), how many homes all of them own (it isn't just McAmnesty that has so many that he/she can't remember them all) and where (for example Edwards) they 'put' their incomes so that they are basically tax free. The vapid stupidity and insanity to rise up the idiots against the very institutions that have made America great, make America run and keep food, healthcare and the best way of life available to every single citizen - for a bunch of lying, corrupt, money-grubbing moroons - is beyond me. Yes, indeed they deserve to get what they voted for - but what about the other 231,000,000 who did <b>not</b> vote for The One (tm) - this isn't mob rule - or majority rule - this a select and relatively small group forcing their will upon the greatest country in the world. Maybe if the msm (I know, but I can dream) printed out how many Congresscritters have oh say – committed a crime – or had an ethics charge lodge against them – or been investigated and then printed Congressional pay scale, how long (isn’t it two terms?!) to qualify for retirement, their retirement (sure aren’t relying on SS to get them through their golden years), how many homes all of them own (it isn’t just McAmnesty that has so many that he/she can’t remember them all) and where (for example Edwards) they ‘put’ their incomes so that they are basically tax free.

The vapid stupidity and insanity to rise up the idiots against the very institutions that have made America great, make America run and keep food, healthcare and the best way of life available to every single citizen – for a bunch of lying, corrupt, money-grubbing moroons – is beyond me.

Yes, indeed they deserve to get what they voted for – but what about the other 231,000,000 who did not vote for The One ™ – this isn’t mob rule – or majority rule – this a select and relatively small group forcing their will upon the greatest country in the world.

]]> By: The Redneck http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140624 The Redneck Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:02:52 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140624 <blockquote>and the public overwhelmingly blames the excesses of the financial industry, rather than the new president, for turmoil in the economy</blockquote> Perfect example of a loaded question. Nobody's claiming Obama is responsible for the current turmoil in the economy (although his actions will certainly cause <i>future</i> turmoil in the economy). The question is whether the excesses of the financial industry or government actions such as the CRA and the corruption in Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac are responsible for our current economic turmoil. By giving two options that ignore the actual culprit--like a lineup where only one guy out of the six looks anything like the culprit and the other five are midgets--WP tries to whitewash our government's part in the latest crash

and the public overwhelmingly blames the excesses of the financial industry, rather than the new president, for turmoil in the economy

Perfect example of a loaded question. Nobody’s claiming Obama is responsible for the current turmoil in the economy (although his actions will certainly cause future turmoil in the economy). The question is whether the excesses of the financial industry or government actions such as the CRA and the corruption in Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac are responsible for our current economic turmoil. By giving two options that ignore the actual culprit–like a lineup where only one guy out of the six looks anything like the culprit and the other five are midgets–WP tries to whitewash our government’s part in the latest crash

]]> By: caligirl9 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140623 caligirl9 Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:49:25 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/wp-nobody-blames-obama-for-the-economy#comment-140623 The kool-aid still tastes good to too many people. It will sour. Even though kool-aid is little more than water, sugar, and artificial flavors and colorings. Wow, sort of like ... TCO, but some of us know there isn't any sugar there! Especially when they realize just how high their taxes can go, just how much TOTUS can take away from those of us trying to be productive. The kool-aid still tastes good to too many people.
It will sour. Even though kool-aid is little more than water, sugar, and artificial flavors and colorings. Wow, sort of like … TCO, but some of us know there isn’t any sugar there!
Especially when they realize just how high their taxes can go, just how much TOTUS can take away from those of us trying to be productive.

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